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Log fires and stoves – do we have to use hardwoods?

Log fires and stoves – do we have to use hardwoods?

Hardwoods are the traditional choice for log-burning stoves and fires but increasingly people are seeing the advantages of burning softwoods.  Softwoods have a lot going for them in that they are:

  • more readily available
  • cheaper, though being more bulky you have to compare carefully  the transport costs
  • they take much less time to season (dry out), typically 6 months rather than the two years needed for hardwoods.

Whilst softwoods are lighter, their calorific value (how much heat they give off) is generally the same as that of hardwoods on a weight for weight basis.  All current log-fuel burning equipment works well with either hardwood or softwood logs, or a mixture.

This is good news for many owners of small woodlands because very often for management reasons you will want to take out softwoods planted in the 1960s and 1970s or simply thin them out.  It is often hard to find a good market for such timber (especially lodgepole pine and spruce) so being able to use it for firewood can be a great help.  Prices of all firewood have been rising over the last couple of years and, because it is a retails market, it is less susceptible to swings in prices.  Of course if you are using firewood form your own woodland you are immune to changes in market prices.

Demand for firewood is currently growing rapidly, illustrated by the fact that domestic demand for wood-burning stoves in 2009 is said to be 50% above the level of 2008.

In terms of drying out, the moisture content of log fuel should be 20% or less.  If you burn wetter material there are various risks - it can corrode equipment and the chimney and lead to reduced heat output .  If you have a stove it may be worth getting a meter for checking how dry your logs are.  There is a selection of these meters available on Amazon which range in cost from £25 to £65.   One UK source of moisture meters is stovesonline.co.uk where meters cost about £32:

http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/firewood-moisture-meter.html


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Discussion

We sell Stoves for a living and we also have a Rapeseed Oil business. We make Briquettes from the waste which work extremely well for wood burning stoves.

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Will Wharfe

11 May, 2018

We sell Stoves for a living and we also have a Rapeseed Oil business. We make Briquettes from the waste which work extremely well for wood burning stoves.

Will Wharfe

11 May, 2018

Seasoned is considered under 25% kiln dried is usually under 20% but be sure and check with a moisture meter as not all of them are. below 15% your burning becomes a pollutant normal household stoves can’t cope with the gasses and they go up the chimney.

http://www.epa.gov/burnwise/workshop2011/WoodCombustion-Curkeet.pdf

Logsnstuff.com

12 February, 2015

We have 2 excellent Clearview woodburners in our rambling Victorian former rectory which greatly reduce our oil bill. At least one has been in use daily and often for 12 hours or more for the past 7 months. We mainly use a mix of hardwoods ( ash, birch and oak ) from our own wood but also blackthorn and hawthorn from thinning out field hedges. All burn well and we season these for at least 8 months including the ash which in our experience does not burn well green contrary to folklore. We also burn larch, Sitka and Norway spruce, generally seasoning these, particularly the larch for at least 2 years. Well seasoned dry larch is first rate although it tends to spit which can be an issue when opening the stove door for refueling. Sitka seems to season and dry out much quicker . All the softwoods make excellent kindling when really dry and are easy to split . It is essential to have plenty of covered well ventilated storage . We have stainless steel double skin flue liners and have these swept annually but despite constant use very little soot is produced. The amount of ash produced is also remarkably small given the volume of wood we burn and is spread around fruit trees and shrubs such as blackcurrant.

Peter Lyne

20 April, 2013

Just got approx 30 cubic metres of poplar for free its not rated as good wood but pallets/plywood etc is made from poplar and they burn brilliant

calvin

7 April, 2013

I’ve never seen a moisture reading higher than 40 and seasoned wood should be less than 20.
A moisture meter and a stove thermometer are invaluable to having an efficient fire.

Fraser

30 March, 2013

i have three wood burners at home and from last winter i started use these eco -friendly logs called Hotties , Increasingly, traditional wood logs are being sold by the
‘cubic metre’ because it is difficult to compare weight due to the great variation in their moisture content, which in turn has a significant effect on heat output.
For example, fresh cut wood logs can have a moisture content
in excess of 60%, seasoned wood logs would typically be between 25-35%, kiln dried logs are under 20%. In order for the Hotties manufacturing process to work effectively, the moisture content of the recycled clean wood must be between 3.5 and 5%, this ensures that Hotties logs are the lowest moisture content of all wood.they give off powerful and reliable heat, every time.i bought mine from fireplace products have a look :

http://www.fireplaceproducts.co.uk/bio-ethanol-bio-fuels/bridge-brooke-hotties-heatlogs/

gemma

6 August, 2012

Like some of the other comments I endorse the use of seasoned POPLAR in wood burners having culled 14 mature poplars and enjoyed free and very hot fuel for 4 years.

Frank Moore

3 January, 2012

The following relates only to use of logs in wood burning stoves; softwoods (pine etc), poplar/willow will burn if seasoned with good airflow but under cover for one year. It is best to at least cut/split into billets if you don’t have time/equipment to do the full log size & split that you will need for your stove opening. If left as round logs with bark on, the seasoning time will need to be extended by around 6+ months. Poplar/willow need plenty of airflow thru stove as otherwise they tend to just smoulder and smoke up the glass; pine doesn’t need so much air flow once alight, but on opening stove door beware of sparks flying as it re-ignites. If you can get it, always go for hardwoods. No matter what you burn on a wood burning stove, you will still be at risk of tarring toward the top of the flue if no rain-guard is fitted. It’s less of a long term problem if you have a steel liner, but with any other form of flue – beware tar if no rain-guard. My experience comes from being a small-woodland contractor and have been burning logs on wood burners for over 35 years.

john

23 November, 2010

My wood is mainly Poplar. I have 2 wood burners at home and was dissapointed to hear that poplar would be a poor wood to use on it.

Having read Paul’s comments I may just fell one of the trees this weekend and leave it to season.

Does anyone know how long polar should be seasoned for?

Steve A

2 March, 2010

Just thought i would mention poplar here. in France (where i live) poplar is frowned upon generally and not
regarded as worth bothering with. I decided to give it a whirl in my wood-burner (Jotul) and found it to be a
really excellent burning wood. I guess its reputation probably comes from open fire use, where one has little control over the rate of burn. Poplar is a lovely species, and it does provide a good crop very quickly, so it is
a tree worth thinking about if you have the space, and especially if you need some added wind shelter too.

Paul Hopes

11 February, 2010